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Sailboat bulkhead material and LocationI'm really using this forum to gear up for a project, thank you very much. Marine plywood versus standard pressure treated plywood as an alternative for a bulkhead material? Marine plywood needs to be shipped in from Seattle...I can grab a sheet of 3/4" pressure treated right off of the shelf. Any issues with this that folks can comment on? Follow up, I've been reading about some folks using a fiberglass G-10 panels in a West System write-up as well for an alternative. Also, Location....is there any reason not to remove a bulkhead while the boat is in the water....structurally or is this a boatyard repair. I can shore up the lateral as required, however without load...mast removed and shrouds not connected, cabin deck supported internally...is there a flex issue with the boat simply floating without a main bulkhead? I replaced my starboard side bulkhead recently and used marine plywood because I had ready access to it for a fair price. In retrospect, I am not sure it was necessary because I ended up coating the piece with epoxy and strengthing areas with additional layers of fabric. The marine ply is clearly superior to the standard and I have a greater level of confidence in the repair. Also my boat is 7.3 meter and will not have the same load as your Cal. West Systems Epoxy Works had a good article on a bulkhead repair where an even more $$ and exotic material was used Yes, I read that article and looked at the composite board material! $$ is right....but bulletproof. Thanks. Thanks Sailingdog. Great point on the toxicity. I was thinking simply on durability and not that I'd have to be living next to it. Marine plywood has a couple advantages ...extra ply and no voids..been told same glue is in exterior ply so thats no better...but for a bulkhead that will be reinforced anyway I would not pay special fright and or wait for it to arrive just to have it but would go with 3/4 inch cc plugged ex tier... Pressure treated ply also is not as stiff due to the impregnation process...it warps a lot easier under loads...so I would not use it for a bulk head...I wish Bayliner would have used it for transoms in their boats though...they would not have such a rot issue... You will be fine pulling your main bulk head under the conditions you listed still in the water... My feeling on these type of questions is that the labor of the job (your time)is exponentially more expensive than the materials and often you are short changing yourself by choosing a less expensive material over the one you know is better. Just my two cents but I have found that after spending 80 or so hours (WAG) on a job like this it's easy to regret saving $50-75 or so bucks for cheaper materials. Good marine plywood cuts much cleaner, the plys are usually finer grain, is vastly stiffer as Stillraing points out, has no voids, and will provide the right answer for the next potential owners survey. Whichever way you go, good luck with the project I can understand the difficulty you face, if the proper material is not available. Would your supplier be willing to put a few sheets of marine ply on his next shipment of material, and perhaps split the freight with you? Whatever you use, I would echo the others and say use the best you can get your hands on. It isn't an easy job to begin with, and it would be a shame to see first class labor with second rate materials. From my own expierience I would advise that once the piece is cut and test fit that you seal all the edges with thickened epoxy, two coats is best, and then tab to the hull well. Your bulkheads may never have rotted if the edges were sealed well. Wooden boats can funcion well indefinately with water inside, but plywood fairs poorly to being even damp for long periods. Do the job well and be pleased with the result. Feetup Great stuff guys....thank you very much. Marine Ply it is an take my time. Top Contributors this MonthJ22 Ives Knoll - Main Bulkhead Replacement project Our club J22 fleet is aging and two boats required new main bulkheads. This page documents the replacement on the main bulkhead in J22 #6 Ives Knoll due to rot at the port side chainplate. There are also some other minor repairs documented here. Ready for last glass work on a beautiful day Bulkhead weakened at chainplate on port side The first step was to create a template of the existing bulkhead. This was done using cardboard on the previous boat (J22 #5) and we had created pressboard templates for port and stbd halves of the bulkhead. These pieces were test fitted and some minor modifications made. Once we were happy the chainplates and all other hardware caps and fiddles were removed from the existing template and a proper test fitting was completed. Templates aligned on the Coosa board to cut new bulkhead core. Pink coloured pencil was the best contrast New core pieces cut. Test fitting the new core pieces The templates were oriented on the coosa core material in a manner to produce the least wastage. Then they were traced in pink coloured pencil and cut using a jigsaw. Back in the boat they were placed against the existing bulkhead to ensure a proper fit. A minor modification and we were happy with the fit and ready to proceed with the demolition stage. Old bulkhead mostly removed Old bulkhead removed. Now cleaning up leftover edges The last bits of the old bulkhead chiselled out. Ready for grinding Grinding complete. A lot of mess! Gelcoat removed for tabbing and the mess mostly cleaned up. Ready for new bulkhead. With the templating process ccompleted it was time to remove the old bulkhead. Despite being rotted at port chainplate the rest of the bulkhead and the tabbing was very strong and difficult to remove. Tools of choice were Reciprocating saw, angle grinder with cutting disc, cordless drill, BFH (Big F...ing Hammer), prying tools, wood chisels. Initially a 3/8 inch bit on cordless drill was used to make a hole for the saw. Then we cut around the edges of the bulkhead and applied liberal doses of bashing with the BFH and even some prying to get rid of the bulkhead. The process required frequent changing of blades in the reciprocating saw but eventually the old bulkhead was removed in three pieces. There was still some tabbing and some of the plywood from the old bulkhead attached at the hull. The cutting disc on the grinder took care of the tabbing material and a wood chisel and a lot of patience removed the wood residue. With the bulkhead removed it was time to prep the surfaces. The interior of the J22 is gelcoat. This must be ground away for 5 inches on each side of the bulkhead to allow the new tabbing material to bond to the hull. The angle grinder once again used with a sanding disc. The process was not difficult but very messy. It is even worse due to the cramped and low ventilation conditions inside a J22. Following this process 30 minutes with a shop vac was required to cleanup the large amound of dust and gelcoat residue. New bulkhead core joined with strip of Biax cloth New bulkhead assembled and ready for installation To say the interior of a J22 is cramped is an understatement. For Ives Knoll we decided to assemble the bulkhead outside of the boat where the working conditions are much more pleasant. Leaving approx four inches uncoated at the edges for the initial tabbing material both front and back sides of the bulkhead were covered with biaxial cloth. Following this process the exposed edges of the new bulkhead were covered with 6 oz cloth. These are the edges that will be exposed once the installation is complete so the 6 oz cloth makes for a more finished look. We are now ready to install the bulkhead in the boat. New bulkhead in place and ready for tabbing First layer tabbing applied. View from forward With the bulkhead now assembled it is time to move back inside the boat. A bit more grinding and some minor persuasion with a rubber mallet and the new bulkhead was in place. It was a very snug fit which is great. With the bulkhead in place the next step was to apply the first layer of tabbing to the forward side of the bulkhead. For this we used 6 inch wide tabbing tape which is basically biaxial cloth that comes on a roll. The aft side will have any gaps around the edges filled with Polyfair and then will also have a layer of 6 inch tabbing. This will be followed by a layer of 8 inch tabbing (biaxial cloth) and then a full covering of forward and aft faces of bulkhead extending 5 inches out on to hull as the final tabbing. Initial layer tabbing complete fore and aft Polyfair applied around compression post step. Some cleanup required One interesting side project involved a small gap between the mast compression post step and the new bulkhead. When cleaning up the area around the old bulkhead some edges of the forward tabbing were left in place as a guide to location of new bulkhead. With the new bulkhead tight against these edges there was a 1/4 inch gap between the step and the new bulkhead. One option was to tighten the bolts once bulkhead was complete, however it was decided that this would cause a bend in the bulkhead. Instead we opted to tighten two of the bolts to the point where the fit was tight but the bulkhead not bent prior to tabbing. Then the small gap between the compression step and bulkhead was filled with resin soaked fibreglass mat. With this done Polyfair was used to seal the edges of the gap. As seen in the above photo there will be a sanding required to clean this up after it cures. Cloth will then cover the polyfair up to the edge of the compression step. 2nd layer of Tabbing cloth applied. Ready for final layer cloth Final layer of cloth fitted and ready for resin Final layer of cloth complete Ran out of gelcoat! Now that the bulkhead was tabbed in place it was time to apply a second wider layer of tabbing. The first layer was 6 inch wide and the second 8 inch wide to provide an overlap. 24 hours later we were ready for the final full layer of glass. This was a full covering of the bulkhead and extended its tabbing 5 inches on to the hull. After sanding the bulkhead was still tacky so held the new cloth in place while a genourous amount of resin was applied. Following this was a 24 hour wait for curing, a final light sanding and then gelcoat was brushed on rather than paint. Unfortunately there was only enough to coat the forward face of the bulkhead and a small bit around the chainplates port and starboard. Project on hold pending the arrival of more gelcoat. Four bolt holes drilled for mast compression post step and 2 limber holes Port chainplate re-installed Stbd chainplate re-bedded. Needs screws for cap While waiting for more gelcoat to arrive some final steps of the bulkhead replacement task were undertaken. Most of this involved drilling holes. First the chainplates had to be reinstalled. The temporary caulking was removed at the deck and then using a cordless drill the bulkhead slots were re-shaped thru the fibreglass tabbing. Then the chainplates were put in place, bolt holes drilled and bolted in place. Once that was complete on deck the chainplates and covers were bedded using 3M 4200 adhesive sealant. Thankfully we had enough gelcoat the previous day to apply a coat where the chainplated would sit on the bulkheads and where the chainplates would come thru the tabbing on underside of deck. A final task was to prepare for rebolting the mast compression post step to the bulkhead and to drill limber holes for drainage. Once the final coat of gelcoat is applied the step will be bolted in place. Port bulkhead with slight bump out for chainplate Bulkhead installation complete. Just requires hardware bolted in place Bulkhead complete with chainplates and mast compression step bolted in place. Some cleanup required The gelcoat supply had been replenished and we were ready to complete the bulkhead. However we did notice an odd thing. This J22 had a bulkhead that was thicker than the previous one and we were using the same stock for bulkhead core. This resulted in a finished biulkhead whose aft side was approx 1/8 inch forward of the chainplate holes in the deck. Due to this there was a gap between chainplate and bulkhead where bulkhead meets deck. The chainplates were removed, the painted on gelcoat was sanded off and a patch four layers thick of biaxial cloth was built at chainplate locations port and stbd. In the picture above you can just see this bumpout that removes the gap. With this complete the aft side of the bulkhead was brushed with gelcoat and the bulkhead installation is now complete. The chainplate needed to once again be installed and bedded and the mast compression step bolted to the new bulkhead. Gunwhale Repair Aft section was in the worst state Forward the damage was less severe There had been some damage to the port gunwhale in four separate places. Two places were simply cracked gelcoat while the other two were through to the layup material. The section that was aft actually was cracked completely through with the fairing material beneath crumbling while the forward section was surface only. The two small sections with cracked gelcoat need only to be ground faired and new gelcoat applied. Aft section with damaged material ground out. Nasty Forward section cleaned up and 3 layers 6oz cloth in place Aft section with 5 layers cloth The two main areas were ground to remove the damaged material. The one aft had crumbly fairing material inside a hole. This was dug out and replaced with polyfair and then five layers of 6oz cloth were applied. We could not get biaxial cloth to lay flat over this bend so 6 oz cloth was used. The forward area had 3 layers of cloth applied and looks ready for sanding and fairing. The aft section needs to be built up with bit more cloth before it is faired. The other two minor sections require fairing material only. This will be faired using coloidal silica mixed with polyester resin for added adhesion, strength and for its white colour. First fairing coat applied. It is not white Port Aft Gunwhale area faired and sanded Port Fwd gunwhale area faired and sanded One more layer of cloth forward and another aft was applied. Next West 406 coloidal silica was mixed with the polyester resin as a thickener. The intent was that it would be white but instead the colour of the resin won out and the result was an aqua colour. The thickened resin was applied to the four repair areas to fill any hollows and then sanded. A second very thin layer of fairing compound was then applied almost as a skim coat. Once this is sanded the areas will be coated with white gelcoat and sanded with 220 then 400 and 600 grit. Following that rubbing compound. It is our hope that this will blend in with the hull more or less. Fairing coats complete. Gelcoat brushed on Closeup shot of repaired area. Close but not exact colour match Another shot this time from aft. All four repaired areas are visible in this picture Miscellaneous smaller repairs With the major problems addressed we now had to turn to some smaller tasks that needed to be done prior to using the boat. These included rebedding stbd jib track, relpacing stbd cam cleat and drilling and refilling the many holes on deck, in cockpit and on sea hood where hardware had at one time been installed. Once this is complete the bottom will be cleaned and painted and then the boat will be ready for the water. Sea hood holes drilled and ready for fill Sea hood holes filled with thickened resin All the holes filled and ready for sanding The deck, cockpit and sea hood of this boat had a larger number of holes from previously installed hardware. Most of the holes had been sealed with resin but were not flush with the deck while those on the sea hood and cockpit seats had been filled with silicon and had some water intrusion. Our plan was to drill all holes slightly larger, fill with thickened resin and then sand flush. Any water in the core and associated rot would be addressed at a later date. The good news is that all of the holes in the deck were filled with resin and water tight leaving only the sea hood and some areas of the cockpit with possible wet core. In the above pictures you can see holes on the poop deck, cockpit seats forward of the traveller and less visible near the toerail and on bow. This boat at one time had stanchions, pulpit, pushpit and lifelines. When added to the sea hood that makes for a lot of possible places for water intrusion. Starbord jib cleat needed to be replaced New jib cleat in place J boats usually have a cam cleat on a bulkhead or coaming beneath the winches for sheets and halyards. The J22 is no exception. The starboard jib cleat was broken and missing parts so was replaced with a shiney new cam cleat. Fasteners for starbord jibtrack. 2nd bolt from front broken. The aft ones we had removed for bolt sizing Jib track holes drilled larger and wet core dug out Holes filled with thickened epoxy and sandy flush Holes redrilled for installation of track The starbord jib track had one bolt broken and showed obvious signs of leakage. The track was removed, holes drilled larger, wet core dug out around edge of hole using an allen key. Once this was completed the holes were filled with thickened epoxy, sanded flush with deck, redrilled for fasteners and the track rebedded. Water can no longer get into core around these bolt holes Ives Knoll washed, waxed, bottom painted and ready to go back in service Frers 33 Persistence J27 Nut Case - Building a Skerry
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Replacing the Bulkheads in my Tanzer 22Why replace the bulkheads. When I had my Tanzer 22 surveyed, the report noted that there was some delamination of the plywood of the bulkhead due to moisture. Both sides have had water dripping in from the chainplates and both sides have had some water damage at the base. Since the bulkhead support the chainplate which can put alot of tension on the wood, it's better to be safe than sorry, so I need to replace the bulkheads, and the bent chainplates. The bulkheads also support a wood beam inside the fiberglass. This supports the mast and can have a lot of weight put on it when the boat is underway. There is some damage on the bulkhead at the very left. The drips from the chainplate are also visible. My Tanzer has wood veneer not the plastic I've seen on some of the other boats. There are 3 slot head bolts at the very top that need to be removed. As well there are some bolts inside the locker just back of the bulkhead. There is also a moulding that run from the ceiling to the floor, 4 screws hold it against the bulkhead. it's strong enough to have some part in supporting the deck and mast above. Nice easy to access nuts and bolts in the locker behind the bulkhead. On the starbord side these bolts are under the sink and will be a tight fit to remove. Small Mystery: Why is there a notch cut into the bulkhead on both sides of the boat. For curtains? Wiring? There is no structural reason that I can see. Some damage to the outside layer of the veneer is visible in the corner. On the right the chainplate is clearly bent. This photo is of the starboard chainplate. The bottom image is of the slot where the chainplate goes into the interior. it's easy to see how it could allow water to get in if it's not perfectly well caulked and bedded. There was probably some water coming in after the chainplates were bent. The chainplates get bent when the mast is lowered without loosening the side stays. If the metal is bent back it can cause metal fatigue so it's better to leave the chainplate bent than to try and straighten it back. View from the front of the boat shows the fasteners. There is also some wiring to be removed, the lightning rod wire, and light fixture wire. The chainplate backing plate is still in place. It has 4 nuts and bolts. (I took this photo before removing the chainplate) Once all the screws were removed including the ones holding the wooden moulding in place it was simple to slide the bulkhead out. I wedged the moulding so it pushed up on the roof slightly. This allowed the bulkhead to slide out without any trouble. Since the mast has been taken down for the winter storage there is no weight on the top of the cabin. I avoided walking on the top while I was doing this repair. I don't know if it matters. I was worried that the roof might sag when the bulkhead was removed but that did not happen. I left the moulding in place to support it just in case. I was also worried that the bulkhead would be wedged in place by a sagging deck but that is not the case. The good guys are winning again. The plywood I removed was not in terrible shape. The chainplate holes were dry and the wood was not delaminated except for the thin veneer on the top. There was also slight discolouration on the very bottom where it had at one time stood in water. It is 3 layers thick with 2 very thin outside veneers. I took the piece home where I have a piece of Meranti nice and flat on my dinner table waiting to be shaped. I had kept it from the Apple Pie Dinghy build. The space looks very large and empty now that the bulkhead has been removed. I've left the moulding up to keep the roof from caving in! I'm joking, but I want to avoid any distortion that would make it harder to replace the new bulkhead. Here is a link to my page about Marine Grade Plywood. There are very stringent requirements to be met if it's to be true marine plywood. Now I need some information. Can I get a chainplate from Tanzer Parts, or do I just go to a metal shop and have them make me a replacement? I would like to know what the funny little cut out in the side of the bulkhead is for. Since I hate slot screws with a passion, I will see if I can replace the original ones with Robertson head. It might be difficult since it looks like the originals were cut to fit. Maybe it's not a standard size. I carefully aligned the old bulkhead onto the Meranti Plywood. it's 12mm I think, It always feel a bit silly to order a 4 feet x 8 feet x12 mm. sheet of plywood. Talk about mixed up units. The outer edge that is covered by the moulding is the only non beveled edge except for the little cut out. Every other edge has a slight angle. The sides are not straight either. It looks like someone took a sander or a grinder to fit it in the original Tanzer shop. After marking the perimeter and all the bolt holes marked I asked Winston to inspect the piece before cutting. I then clamped the wood to the table. I drilled 2 of the marked holes at each corner of the bulkhead, to have a way of aligning the pieces after they are cut so that I can re align them with no shifting. I used a jig saw with fine teeth blade. It cuts without leaving a burr. I guess it's slower than a regular blade but this plywood is brittle and the edges chip and tear out if the blade is coarser. On the Skerry build I used metal blades sometimes. It was slow but clean. To make the bevels I used a combination of my random orbital sander, a file and sandpaper on a block and my hand plane. it's tedious to shape. My little plane worked in some places but others it was too hard and on end grain and the sander was faster. New bulkhead piece is cut out and beveled. Tomorrow I will take it to the boat and spend a happy afternoon fiddling to fit it. I have no illusions that it will just slide in. After the fitting I know I will need to make it slightly smaller because I plan to epoxy and varnish the bulkhead and this will thicken it up again. I've located a few machine shops nearby and I will now call them and see if they can fabricate new Tanzer Chainplates. I will not make it bigger. There was no sign of stress on the bulkhead and no distortion of the screwholes so I don't see the need. I will also not use thicker and thus stronger metal because I think I prefer to see damage on the chainplate where it is easy to spot than on the mast fitting or the stays, where damage might not be so obvious and more expensive to fix. When there is a lot of stress something has to give, I prefer to know what. Should the chainplate fail there is always a chance of grabbing the end and tying it down to something on deck. There is no chance of doing this if it fails from the top of the mast. The colour of the Meranti Plywood looks grayish but comes up a rich brown colour once finished as on my Apple Pie tender transom. I painted over the epoxy but the colour was very nice. My day job interfered with my life and I did not get to the boat. I did get the chainplates made though. I had left the original damaged chainplate at a machine shop near my home. The shop is quite high end but so conveniently close that if I count even a fraction of my time it's worth paying a slightly higher price. They did a fabulous job and the new Tanzer chainplates are absolutely identical except for the finish. They put a bit of a satin sheen on. They look very classy! When I brought it in the owner said that there would be no problem making the part and that most of the time would be spent drawing the part in a CAD program. The actual machining is very fast and automated. The shop is immaculate and the floor is full of huge automated cutters, lathes and tempering gismos. They also have a hands on room with more recognizable equipment and men who actually get dirty hands. After drilling the various holes, I wrapped the new part in an old sheet and took it to the boat to check the fit. It was almost right. I need to allow for the slight curve of the angles of the fiberglass and cut a bit off the edge. I also checked the mast head to see if the stays or the mast connection was damaged at all. I was worried that the wire might have pulled out of the connector. There was no damage and the stay was in good shape. I still need to round the edge to accommodate the radius on the fiberglass. The top edge also needs trimming to fit against the fiberglass rounded corner. Since these 2 edges won't be showing it's not too stressful. The boat cover makes a tent and it's surprisingly warm and cosy inside. I can sit on the seat without touching the roof. When it gets cold and I want to work on the boat, I can set up a small heater. I took the bulkhead home and sanded it slightly smaller and rounded the inside edges. After testing it for fit I'm happy. The bulkhead is quite tight but fits. I took it home and did a final adjustment to allow for the epoxy thickness and some varnish. Sanded all the holes smooth. There was some burr left over after the drilling. Used a small file and rolled up sandpaper. Sanded the whole surface and erased any pencil mark still on the edges. I thinned the edge that has the trim so it will still fit in after the epoxy and varnish. Dusted everyting and I think I'm ready for epoxy. Put the epoxy in warm water to warm it up after coming in from the cold garage. I'm using slow set to let it penetrate as much as possible. I like having lots of time to apply the epoxy without worrying. Used a small paintbrush to coat all the drilled holes with epoxy. In particular the chainplate holes were saturated. If water ever comes in it won't ever get wet. The Tanzer bulkhead now has a coat of epoxy on both sides (I used small nails stuck in the table to support the back side) I paid particular attention to the edges to make sure they were saturated. I love to see the wood come alive after the first coat of finish. it's a lovely rich brown. Photo is a bit blotchy but it's quite even. This is the point in the project where if I had to I could put the boat back together and it would work just fine. The rest is for appearances. I was calculating how long I had spent so far. Take the bulkhead off the boat: 1 hr Mark it and cut 1.5 hrs Bevel the edges and fine tune the edge 1.5 hrs 2 tests on the boat and adjustments 2 hrs final sand and epoxy coat 1 hour So far a total of 7 hours, but no rushing involved. So this job takes about 12 hours at a leisurly rate completely re-assembled not counting getting the materials. I had all that from the floor repair. If I had done the 2 sides at the same time it would have saved time but I prefer to have some support on the bulkhead in case there is some sagging. I've had enough of sanding epoxy. it's pretty smooth now. I've re-drilled the holes where epoxy had thickened the opening too much. I've tested the fit in the boat again and it's good. it's interesting that the top had settled very slightly. I will be able to push it up but it had come down about 2 mm. I'm glad I left one bulkhead up and a support as well. I'm using Behr spar varnish on the carefully dusted bulkhead. The colour is slightly browner than the original but it's a lovely colour. I'm planning to put several thin coats. I'm in no rush to finish. First coat is on and drying. it's going to look nice on my little boat. After several coats of varnish, I dulled it with extra fine steel wool and waxed it. The bulkhead feels lovely and has a nice dull shine. it's far from perfect but will pass the 4 feet rule. If you can't see a flaw at 4 feet it's good enough! Finally a lovely sunny day and I brought the bulkhead and starting installing it on the Tanzer. I had to push up the top a small amount but there was no real difficulty. My port navigation lights have little screws protruding and one was digging into the bulkhead. I had to go unwrap the boat and unscrew it. I'll replace it with a slightly fatter and shorter screw that does not extend into the bulkhead. I used an awl to line up the screw holes. It worked well and I got all my bolts in place. They all lined up perfectly. Beginners luck!! I though I would have to re-drill some but I got lucky. I intend to replace some of the bolts. The originals were slightly bent and seemed to have been cut to size from longer bolts. The chainplate hole was gummed up with old silicone. It took a long time to clean it up. When I can access the outside more easily I will clean up on deck and put 3M 4200 to seal the chainplate and the hole. The lower nuts and bolts are in place as are the top ones. I plan to replace the top ones. The chainplate is loosely bolted in. All the holes lined up perfectly and the bulkhead fits. I tapped in the edge moulding but I plan to refinish it after the 2 bulkheads are installed. Right now I prefer to have it supporting the deck The Starboard bulkhead is more damaged but I did not realize the extent of the rot. Starboard BulkheadFrom the outside there seems to be minimal damage but once I took the bulkhead off the inside was quite rotten. The delamination is not severe except for the thin top veneer. There is rot for about 2 inches around the corner. The rest of the wood is quite strong. I'm wondering if some of the water came from the sink along with the leaky chainplate. It was a bit trickier to remove this side because the sink is in the way and it's awkward not being able to stand nor sit. The nuts live under the counter too. The worst was my mistake. The outside moulding from the port side was held on only by screws. The starboard one is held by screws AND a nut and bolt. It took a while to figure this out. sigh!!! I thought the screw was not catching and just turning freely. Spring is almost here and there is still lots to do with with boat. I'll get this bulkhead done more quickly now that I know how. Launch looms closer now. I have completed the starboard bulkhead and sanded and varnished the vertical wood strips that trim the edges. Everything fits. Everything went together quite well. I had to do a couple of fittings to get the bulkhead to slide in but nothing major. The trickiest part was putting the nuts on the bottom. There is not a lot of space between the sink and the bulkhead to hold the nuts. It's not hard particularly just fiddly and I kept dropping washers and having to hunt for them. I removed the chainplate deck fittings and found that they had been seated with silicone. it's always difficult to remove all the old stuff and I had to scrape and sand the deck and the slot. I'm sure I left some inside the slot. I put an extra large dollop of 3M 4200 and replaced the chainplate and secured it from the inside. I then gooped up around the chainplate and replaced the now cleaned fitting. I made a mess but I think I got the plate down and I don't think this will ever leak for as long as I'm alive. I was using compounds that had just began setting off so it was slightly thicker than when it's fresh so it resisted coming out of the tube. My inside caulking is not so very nice. It was setting quite quickly so I did not have lots of time to fiddle and clean as I went. I finally got everything back together. The new bulkheads, the new chainplates waterproofed, all the screws and nuts tightened and the wood trim glued and screwed back in position. I guess I will go back and tidy the caulking after it has set, but for now, I'm done! The good guys win again! Small PrintThis information is for general knowledge. I don't suggest that this is the only way or the best way to fix your bulkheads. Use your head and do your research. - Forums New posts Unanswered threads Register Top Posts Email
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Ok, might sound stupid but is it possible to replace the bulkheads on an O'day 26 while it's still in the water? And with the mast still up? I'm thinking, do one side at a time and use the halyards as safety lines while I re-bed each sides chain plates? If the stays are slightly slackened so no excess compression forces other than weight of the mast on the compression post..? Am I crazy or just ignorant? I have access to a trailer so I can haul out. Dropping the mast I'd like to do only if it's advisable and prudent. The seller (not my boat yet) appears to have covered the original bulkheads or possibly a thinner replacement with cedar siding! It smells good but adds no structural support. AttachmentsI would drop the mast and stow it on land and do all the bulkheads. You Need To Drop The Mast Drop the Mast. Better yet wait for winter. bria46 said: Drop the Mast. Better yet wait for winter. Click to expand Gonna take one more look at the bulkheads this week before we make a decision to buy or not. The PO had a "carpenter" replace a lot of the woodwork inside, me thinks they either covered up the old bulkheads with cedar siding. The bulkheads may have been replaced with some sort of plywood then covered they covered it. PO has no knowledge of how the repairs were done, he just paid the carpenter to "fix" it. Makes me worry alrighty! Price is very very realistic given the condition. On the good side, she has a new roller furler, 140% genoa and new cushion covers throughout. I will defiantly pull her out if the bulkheads need done and do a bottom job as well. Will update as the saga continues. Most everything can be fixed. If it's decent shape and the price is right. I spent 18 mo rebuilding mine. True, but by the time I'm done I could probably buy a well maintained boat, right? I don't mind a repair or three but don't want to spend months on it. Fly_H23 said: True, but by the time I'm done I could probably buy a well maintained boat, right? I don't mind a repair or three but don't want to spend months on it. Click to expand - This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies. Accept Learn more…
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By Dan Witucki Above: With her damaged bulkheads replaced, the Evelyn 32-2 sailboat RUSH is back in action. Several weeks later, the new bulkheads proved they could handle the stress of a heavy knockdown and a major storm during the infamous 2002 Chicago to Mackinac race. ... Although this bulkhead replacement job had looked rather intimidating ...
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In this video im working on my hunter 30 getting it ready for the sailing season. I noticed two of my chain plates where being pulled out of the deck. upon f...
Apr 30, 2014. #12. If you go to the Catalina factory website, and look up the chain plate replacement kit, you'll find that now it is U bolts. They are mounted with an aluminum 90 degree "angle iron" plate. Another plate anchors the bulkhead to the bottom of the fiberglass shelf. This continues in the Stb side.
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A far better way to do it is to leave a gap, 1/4 is nice but at least 1/8, between the bulkhead and hull. Tab one side. Fill the gap from the other side with a polyurethane adhesive. I would recommend the loctite marine sealant from home dopey for $12 a tube. Same stuff as 3m 5200 but reasonably priced.
Replace what you have, the 1/2", but protect it. The most stressed part of a boat is the bulkhead that the chainplate is bolted to. This is a dynamic. Dynamic meaning that it moves. The bulkhead is a solid stucture that can take a vertical load with no problem. That is great if the bulkhead doesn't move. I will in as few words ask possible ...
Bulkhead Replacement Questions for a Cabo Rico 34. Discussion in 'Sailboats' started by jkenan, Jan 10, 2020 ... on materials, tabbing (including number of layers of tabbing), and overall approach to this job would be appreciated. Boat is mostly gutted at this point, with a couple more BH's to remove, and existing tabbing ground out. Then the ...
BTW, you could always cut the bulkhead in half, and epoxy the halves back together once you got it in the boat... One of my friends did essentially that... the area adjacent to the cut was routed down to 3/8" thick, for 2" on either side of the cut and a piece of 3/8" plywood was scarfed in with thickened epoxy and a a couple layers of ...
On bulkhead construction, including composite bulkheads. Bulkhead repair - Fix It Anarchy - Sailing Anarchy Forums = On Nida-Core Nida-Core: Looking 4 Thoughts & Feedback - Boat Design Forums The thing is, unless you Really need to save weight on the boat , using this stuff for one part, is likely both going to cost you more, & be a heck of a ...
Ranger 23 Milwaukee. Nov 25, 2020. #1. I have just taken ownership of a Ranger 23. It is in pretty good shape, but it does need a bulkhead replacement on the Starboard side. I am interested in anyone's experience replacing a bulkhead (both in general and specific to the Ranger 23). Would love people's opinion on a replacement versus reinforcing.
Using a disposable brush and putty knife, force the mixed resin into the gap between the bulkhead and fiberglass tabbing. Protect your hands with throwaway gloves as this is a messy job. A chemical respirator is recommended in the confined spaces of a boat bilge. Work quickly as the resin in the mixing pot will be "cooking."
54 posts · Joined 2006. #2 · May 5, 2008. I replaced my starboard side bulkhead recently and used marine plywood because I had ready access to it for a fair price. In retrospect, I am not sure it was necessary because I ended up coating the piece with epoxy and strengthing areas with additional layers of fabric.
Fixing bulkheads and chainplates, on a sailboat, using Formica, a laminate trimmer and a multi-tool ; from walls, to bulkheads, shelves to headliners; why n...
Sand the fiberglass flush to the hull so it provides a mechanical bond for the replacement tabbing to hold the new bulkheads. The job of scribing the exact shape is next. First, make an exact template of the bulkhead in cardboard. To make the cardboard template you will need an architect's drawing compass, duct tape, cardboard, and a box ...
It a full day of work to pull and put the replacement back in. No matter how well you template the new bulkhead, there will need to be adjustments made that you'll discover upon installation. So bring a chisel and a good rasp as well as a belt sander. Total cost if I remember was about $250 with everything.
In this episode do some prep work, setting conditions to install the bulkheads. By the end, both port side bulkheads are in place
J22 Ives Knoll - Main Bulkhead Replacement project. Our club J22 fleet is aging and two boats required new main bulkheads. This page documents the replacement on the main bulkhead in J22 #6 Ives Knoll due to rot at the port side chainplate. There are also some other minor repairs documented here. Ready for last glass work on a beautiful day.
Feb 28, 2005. 184. Catalina 22 1909 North East, Md. Oct 4, 2014. #6. I need to replace the bulkheads in my 1973 C22, I plan to use a good quality cabinet grade plywood. The most important things when you replace the bulkheads are: 1) The thickness of the plys the thiner the plys means more plys for a given thickness and that means higher ...
Since the bulkhead support the chainplate which can put alot of tension on the wood, it's better to be safe than sorry, so I need to replace the bulkheads, and the bent chainplates. The bulkheads also support a wood beam inside the fiberglass. This supports the mast and can have a lot of weight put on it when the boat is underway.
Aug 17, 2005. 97. - - Halifax, Nova Scotia. Dec 31, 2006. #3. Been there - O'Day 25. I replaces the port bulkhead on my O'Day 25 last spring. Used marine plywood, cut to fit then epoxied the whole piece including all edges (after a test fit). I figured worst case if I get another leak this thing won't rot again.
489. Compac 14 Charleston, SC. Jul 1, 2012. #6. Gonna take one more look at the bulkheads this week before we make a decision to buy or not. The PO had a "carpenter" replace a lot of the woodwork inside, me thinks they either covered up the old bulkheads with cedar siding.