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Newport 16 or Renken 18
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- Start date May 16, 2004
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I'm looking for my first sailboat for my family and I. I have never sailed and have a family of four. I have these two boats that I have narrowed my selection to. I want a boat that is roomy enough for my family, easy to trailer, and yet still have fun on. Anyone have any suggestions or information on either one of these boats?
neptune 16 I had a Neptune 16 for my first sailboat(neptune 16 and newport 16 same boat I believe), Luved the boat, sailed well, and was forgiving of my mistakes for a small sailboat. Not a lot of cabin room but overnited in it a couple of times with wife and kids (wife wasn't happy but kids luved it) Have no knowledge of your other choice. But I know the neptune was very well built...best of luck and happy sails
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Renken I was looking for an open 16 footer to introduce my daughters to sailing when I ran across a Renken 18 for sale - it had been donated to a church. It taught me a lot in the 6 years I owned it, and though it was a long way from a state-of-the-art design, it suited my needs at the time. A very safe and stable sailer, its rig is simple and easy to set up - which also means that it doesn't have the tweaks that a more performance oriented boat would have. It was originally built as a "Tangerine 18" in the late 70s, then Renken bought the mold(s) and made them in '83, only to stop production because they cost too much to build. I did about 400 sails on mine and sold it for almost what I had in it, after pushing it as far as I could (rigged it for spinnaker, etc.) Because it has a stub keel it will make a goodly amount of leeway upwind, and thus is not much good for racing, but if you don't mind that drawback it is a fine boat, well built and simple. I would be happy to comment further backchannel. Check out geocities.com/renkensailboats/ for more info.
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Newport 16 The Newport has a very large cockpit, easy and fast to rig, very easy and stable to sail. Cabin is too small for family overnight, but great boat for daysailing with lots of storage room in the cabin.
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Review of Tangerine 18
Basic specs..
The hull is made of fibreglass. Generally, a hull made of fibreglass requires only a minimum of maintenance during the sailing season. And outside the sailing season, just bottom cleaning and perhaps anti-fouling painting once a year - a few hours of work, that's all.
The boat equipped with a fractional rig. A fractional rig has smaller headsails which make tacking easier, which is an advantage for cruisers and racers, of course. The downside is that having the wind from behind often requires a genaker or a spinnaker for optimal speed.
The Tangerine 18 is equipped with a fin keel. The fin keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel.
The boat can enter even shallow marinas as the draft is just about 0.61 - 0.71 meter (2.00 - 2.30 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.
Sailing characteristics
This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.
What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?
The capsize screening value for Tangerine 18 is 2.37, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.
What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?
The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 5.2 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.
The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Tangerine 18 is about 60 kg/cm, alternatively 336 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 60 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 336 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.
Sailing statistics
This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.
What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?
What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?
What is a Ballast Ratio?
What is Displacement Length Ratio?
SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio) Indicates how fast the boat is in light wind: - Cruising Boats have ratios 10-15 - Cruiser-Racers have ratios 16-20 - Racers have ratios above 20 - High-Performance Racers have ratios above 24 Sail-area/displacement ratio (SA/D ratio): 21.04
Maintenance
When buying anti-fouling bottom paint, it's nice to know how much to buy. The surface of the wet bottom is about 9m 2 (96 ft 2 ). Based on this, your favourite maritime shop can tell you the quantity you need.
If you need to renew parts of your running rig and is not quite sure of the dimensions, you may find the estimates computed below useful.
| Usage | Length | Diameter | ||
| Jib sheet | 5.3 m | (17.5 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Genoa sheet | 5.3 m | (17.5 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Mainsheet | 13.3 m | (43.7 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
| Spinnaker sheet | 11.7 m | (38.5 feet) | 8 mm | (5/16 inch) |
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Tangerine 18
Tangerine 18 is a 17 ′ 5 ″ / 5.3 m monohull sailboat designed by Brian Amato and built by Salt Marine Inc. starting in 1977.
Rig and Sails
Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.
The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.
Classic hull speed formula:
Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL
Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL
Sail Area / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.
SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3
- SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement Ratio
A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.
Ballast / Displacement * 100
Displacement / Length Ratio
A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.
D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort Ratio
This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.
Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )
- D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening Formula
This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.
CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)
First built by Salt Marine of Ft Lauderdale FL (USA). Later offered as the SIGMA 18, before the molds were purchased by Renkin, better known as a builder of powerboats. It then became the RENKIN 18.
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Tangerine 18
The tangerine 18 is a 17.5ft fractional sloop designed by brian amato and built in fiberglass by salt marine inc. (usa) since 1977..
The Tangerine 18 is a light sailboat which is a high performer. It is stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a racing boat.
Tangerine 18 for sale elsewhere on the web:
Main features
| Model | Tangerine 18 | ||
| Length | 17.50 ft | ||
| Beam | 6.33 ft | ||
| Draft | 2 ft | ||
| Country | United states (North America) | ||
| Estimated price | $ 0 | ?? |
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| Sail area / displ. | 21.06 | ||
| Ballast / displ. | 36.89 % | ||
| Displ. / length | 153.57 | ||
| Comfort ratio | 10.13 | ||
| Capsize | 2.37 |
| Hull type | Monohull fin keel with transom hung rudder | ||
| Construction | Fiberglass | ||
| Waterline length | 15.25 ft | ||
| Maximum draft | 2 ft | ||
| Displacement | 1220 lbs | ||
| Ballast | 450 lbs | ||
| Hull speed | 5.23 knots |
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| Rigging | Fractional Sloop | ||
| Sail area (100%) | 150 sq.ft | ||
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| Nb engines | 1 | ||
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| Nb of cabins | 0 | ||
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Builder data
| Builder | Salt Marine Inc. (USA) | ||
| Designer | Brian Amato | ||
| First built | 1977 | ||
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Has anyone ever sailed a Renken 18 or Tangerine 18? I'm just curious to see other peoples opinion of the lil thing. It is my first sloop rigged boat after learning on a sunfish. If anyone has any tips
First built by Salt Marine of Ft Lauderdale FL (USA). Later offered as the SIGMA 18, before the molds were purchased by Renkin, better known as a builder of powerboats. It then became the RENKIN 18.
A very safe and stable sailer, its rig is simple and easy to set up - which also means that it doesn't have the tweaks that a more performance oriented boat would have. It was originally built as a "Tangerine 18" in the late 70s, then Renken bought the mold (s) and made them in '83, only to stop production because they cost too much to build.
Join Date: Oct 2010. Location: Jacksonville, NC. Boat: Renken 18. Posts: 28. Re: Renken 18. Well I'm here in Williamsburg now so we sail or have sailed on the same waters! I will most likely have her for another 3-5 years before I can get a larger boat for the family. This boat really is a fun little pocket rocket if you sail her aggressively!
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Sailing in my Renken 18 / Tangerine 18 sailboat Sparkfly88 243 subscribers Subscribed 17 6.4K views 13 years ago Sailing in the Sarasota bay, it was quite windy that day....more
Tangerine 18 is a 17′ 5″ / 5.3 m monohull sailboat designed by Brian Amato and built by Salt Marine Inc. starting in 1977.
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The Tangerine 18 is a 17.5ft fractional sloop designed by Brian Amato and built in fiberglass by Salt Marine Inc. (USA) since 1977. The Tangerine 18 is a light sailboat which is a high performer.
This is a 1978 Tangerine, it was the prototype for the Renken 18 production sailboat. Renken produced the R18 throughout the 1980's Specifications 17'6" 15' water line 6'4" beam 1,000 to 1,200 pounds (tangerine says 1,000 - Renken 1,200) sail area Genoa and main 150 sq ft. 2' draft Gel coat shot inside cushions in great shape standing rigging in great shape Racing sails in great shape trailer ...
Florida. $2,800. Description: Renken 18 Tangerine 1978. First built by Salt Marine of Ft Lauderdale FL (USA). Later offered as the SIGMA 18, before the molds were purchased by Renkin, better known as a builder of powerboats. It then became the RENKEN 18. Hull Type: Fin w/transom hung rudder. Rig Type: Fractional Sloop.
Posts: 1. Renken 18 User Manual? Hi, I'm new to the forum and to sailing and just picked up a Renken Tangerine 18 to learn with. Does anyone have a manual that would show how to rig the sails, and any other information about the boat? Thank you in advance! 06-10-2019, 13:07. # 2.
1979 Tangerine 18. This is a real nice trailerable family sailboat. Very stable shoalkeel design with minimal draft yet great stability and less tippy than most daysailors. Perfect for a day at the lake or a sail on the bay. There aren't many trailer-sailors like this one. The best of a keeled fin yet trailerable with a centerboard.
Tangerine 18, 1978. it was the prototype for the Renken 18 production sailboat. Renken produced the R18 throughout the 1980's. Excellent boat for cruising the FL Intercoastal or light sailing on the ocean. Very easy to setup and sail. Comes with very nice 2009 Tohatsu 4 Stroke 3.5 HP engine. Lots of accessories and extras included with the boat.
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Blue Water Surf Value Rank (BWSVR) 7499. Capsize Comfort Value Rank (CCVR)
The Tangerine was sold as a pocket cruiser by the Tangerine Sailboat Company in the late '70's, and was later purchased by the Renken motorboat company to be sold as the Renken 18. This example has been modified extensively, and includes a mid-boom traveller and proper headsail tracks. The previous owner had completely refinished the hull and deck, using Interlux finishes. He also manufactured ...
Originally called the TANGERINE 18 and built by the Salt Marine Co./sold by Tangerine Sailboat Co. In the early 1980's the company was bought out by Renkin, primarily a builder of power boats, during a short lived foray into the sailboat market.
Initially, the Tangerine Sailboat Company manufactured the Tangerine 18' pocket cruiser . In the early 80's the Renken motorboat company bought the Tangerine company in an effort to try out the sailboat market. Tangerine 18 for sale, sailboats for sale
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