18-02-2022, 06:42 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | and . Despite what the owner of the firm says in a video, there is no escaping the fact a cruising sailing requires safe access to all rigging and sails. Obviously, there is the sloped surface on the bow, however, also notice the sloped surface below the bow. The connection points at the ama are also not safe. Glazing appears strong enough to stand on, however, would you stand on sloped wet slippery surface with nothing to prevent you falling . protection to prevent someone from going . Horizontal spacing or lines must prevent someone from slipping under railings that need to be added. There must be several latch points for crew/owner to safely tie on to descend to the bow wearing safety harnesses. 2. It might be possible for the top layer of the double layered glazing to have deep groove or tall raised bumps to provide traction. 3. There needs to be a strong attachment point for an inner stay sail. 4. Under no circumstances should anyone suggest this vessel ever fly a . The manufacturer appears to have already realized this. I used to fly multiple sails downwind by making attachments to the ama. I suggest the manufacturer add both attachment points to the ama bows and rigging lines to raise/lower additional downwind sails. 5. The bows of the ama need full protection on this vessel owing to the bow shape. Therefore, the sailing system, looks pretty, but is not safe. Safe access to the tip of the ama bow is needed when and on a three-point . |
18-02-2022, 06:54 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | . I utilized two attachment points and ran the through two different blocks that helped bring the clew down. One block was located on the main , and used to . The other block was located way out at the edge of the ama and used downwind. I see no easy way to switch between points of sailing to control the . |
18-02-2022, 07:00 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | as being safe. I would never show a picture with a person standing in the as shown. |
18-02-2022, 07:08 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | stair railings. . This is a very simple fix and involves just running the railing to the full length of the staircase. Don't be a and ignore this issue. I have heard of someone taking a tumble on Lagoon's stairs and anyone can see this is a problem waiting to happen. p.s. Like me, the manufacture found room to put a keyboard aboard. For a cruising sailing version I recommend dropping some of the weight by eliminating the fancy case. I mounted my Yamaha keyboard aboard a light shelf as their frame was too heavy. |
18-02-2022, 07:14 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | for good reason. How do you get to it? If I need to drop an and attach a different one, how am I going to do that? Isn't this the perfect spot for growth on the anchor? How do you clean it? How do you remove the mud from the anchor chain? Fine, you can do this on a yacht. But under no circumstances set sail aboard this vessel until few basic anchoring problems are addressed. Firstly, get rid of the bow thruster for the cruising sailing version. If I can pull into One 15 Marina in and a far wider trimaran next to superyachts using only one , even an idiot should be able to control this vessel with twin engines. Hint. I found a very long floating sisal to be a great aid. Further, you have a with an to push the bows of this narrow trimaran. Secondly, cut a nice hole in the side of the bow and draw up the anchor above the waterline. Further, the anchor can't slam and raddle against the vessel in the waves when on a . Yes you may need to lose some of the seating area of the front stateroom for a proper . |
18-02-2022, 07:29 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | style anchor and 100 meters of chain I still was had issues. Issues are simply not something that can be taken lightly when there is a 50 breeze blowing you to shore. Yes, vessel size, windage and winds and conditions, that very few people on this forum have ever seen, are involved. With all my ground tackle out, I dragged almost a full kilometer along a sandy shore before I finally stopped progression by utilizing engine to counteract windage. This took three people. I sat on the bow in a thunderstorm watching the chain rise and fall as the engine cycled forward/neutral. One crew sat midway to relay commands. One crew ran the engine. Compared to my vessel your vessel is windage super tanker. If cruising anywhere aboard this vessel, absolute number one should be, never anchor anywhere unless you leave trained crew members aboard to bring up the anchor and set sail. The bow shape basically precludes the use of a decent anchor like a so a cruising version of this vessel is going to have to depend upon chain weight. And, that is to just hold this vessel in mild conditions. The trained crew should still apply. P.S. I have hired temporary crew to babysit aboard my vessel when I wanted everyone to shore for dinner. My vessel would not have blown to shore in the King's Cup incident that put every multi-hull that was that day in Phuket. |
18-02-2022, 08:13 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | . 3. Address adequate of backup anchors and how to install them in a pinch. 4. Address chain weight and hobby horsing issue. 5. Address chain access to untwist and clean it. Item 5 is not really something many of the jet set understand until they experience what we really do from time to time aboard a cruising vessel. Okay picture this, after spending several days in the perfect cruising locations on anchor, you go to drop anchor and it won't deploy. All those days on the hook added twist after twist into a 100 plus meters of chain. There is nothing in your chain locker but a mass of twisted . Hundreds and hundreds of pounds of that must be carefully extracted and untwisted. Where are you going to put all this chain when doing this process? Further, when anchoring more than a few days in thick muddy harbors, people like me know if we don't take everything out and clean the locker we in for rusting mass of steel. I always dreamed of a high pressure to wash the chain before lifting anchor. Where is all this chain going to go? Finally, there is the growth issue. I used to draw up about 20-30 meters, wash in fresh , and then let it dry in the sun to get all the stuff to fall off. Then the chain needs to go back down. |
18-02-2022, 08:28 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | , and design. for a . #1 I like the fact there is redundancy. However, there is not double the chance of having a host of problems. #2 The propeller is really fancy! Folding, variable blah blah blah. However, this is not a . What you are doing is placing a propeller aboard that can't be fixed remotely. Further it is totally unprotected. I found a simple fixed prop perfect for a non-racing sailboat. #3 The unsupported shaft length is not acceptable. One bump from a small log would damage both the prop that can't be repaired and the shaft which must now be removed. Try that while in the water! At minimum drop a strut and add two cutlass bearings within the strut. The prop should be about 6" from the end of the strut. #4 Yes I like the tiny short rudder. The rudder on my vessel was almost 8 feet tall. However, if this totally unprotected rudder is , and chances are now twice, this vessel may not steer. I am strongly in favor of changing to a rudder that can steer this vessel. #5 A short daggerboard in front of the shaft will deflect most away before they hit the new strut, prop, and rudder. Despite the fact I had just such a dagger board, I still suffered prop damage when I hit something. |
18-02-2022, 09:11 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | was a total loss as a . Again, I really love some aspects and think it is possible to toss much of this to convert it to a viable cruising sailboat. Firstly, stop and think. This is NOT a racing sailboat. To be a cruising sailboat, it only needs to go slowly and safely. It tooks me years to learn this. My last years aboard my vessel were by far the most pleasurable because my tiny little rig would my vessel no more than about 12 knots at 20 knots beam on. I loved it. I can find no mention of the height. I suspect you are in the 70 foot range. I suggest the 45-50 foot range would be more than adequate to power this vessel under sail around 7 knots. It will never go to under sail with a reduced rig. Perhaps even a 80ft rig would still not power this puppy into the wind. However, it should motor sail at a point of about 30 percent to true wind without too much jib issue. Again, you need to have two points of connection of that jib down to the to have any chance of doing both to wind and downwind. Down in the engine rooms, the specs are 2-200 hp horses. As much as I don't like to suggest it, I want you to look hard at the weight savings of two much smaller turbo charged diesels. I am thinking along the lines of 2-100 hp engines. Further, I would get rid of both Kohler generators. When the engines are running, you will have enough power to run lights and AC to keep the important areas cool using alternators on the engines. Perhaps you will not cool the vast living area, however, that area can be always be cooled under . I love it, you love it, but no. Black adds far too much heat load. I tried just a yellow stripe down the center of my vessel and found that even bright yellow added far too much heat to the compartments. Further, yes, people will get burned by the surfaces. Drop from 24 down to about 4. There is really no need to have that much capacity when the engine can provide power. I would also get rid of a lot of the sound proofing you added. In the cruising sailboat version we can deal with a little . Believe it or not, I was always listening to the engine when it was running even when I was sleeping. Kind of like sleeping with my ears open. Until weight is dropped, everyone who sails aboard this vessel will complain that it hobby horses so much they are sea sick. |
18-02-2022, 09:19 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | item and point of failure. It really is possible to reduce and share intakes to heads etc. Speaking of ... |
18-02-2022, 09:46 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | controls. The unfortunate problems gained by changing to twin engines is how to control the rudders. This is a constant question for owners especially with two helms. I was so fortunate one rudder, and a continuous shaft with cams to transfer motions to rudder. Clearly in the same there is no reason to have two sets of helms side by side. This alone would save many kg. In a cruising version you need to look at everything and ask if it is really needed. Tons of aboard my own vessel were never used or chucked when they died. I never used a wind direction indicator. I had my face. I never put the log into the water to measure , actually speed was fine for me. I certainly didn't need a heavy big chart plotter. My was fine. KISS. Eliminate all weight especially weight up high. This is a very narrow trimaran for the load it is carrying. In addition to the hobby horsing the side-to-side motion will be high owing to having so much weight up high. Study the glass and feel how much it weighs. I bet you can switch all glass to fiber glass reinforced epoxy with UV filter made by BASF mixed into the resin and cut glass weight by 1/3. We all know the truth here. We are not fooled into thinking you have created a light weight vessel just because you wasted on carbon fiber this and that. We can still see all that glass, the weight of all the unneeded generators, etc. |
18-02-2022, 09:57 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | . To use this vessel as a cruising sailboat we need a safe way to access and refill the dinghy. Most of us also won't give up our portable generators. Perhaps there is something built into the very aft floors I don't see. This area would be very wet under sail. Further, I see the dinghy is stored under the floor which is kind of neat. How big is this compartment under the floor? Is this area pumped dry to reduce weight before sailing and does the motor have to be removed? Where does it stow? I also haven't mentioned clearance under the aka between the hulls. I can't imagine it is very high. FYI as a point of reference I could easily between hulls of my trimaran without having to duck. Despite how high this clearance was, I still had waves striking this area in heavy seas. Aboard this vessel, I think the owner may soon find the sound added to the engine compartments not relevant compared to the these waves will make underway. One question the owner of the firm answered in a video was about under the hull. I don't think the owner understood the question was really whether the vessel had a planing hull. |
18-02-2022, 12:29 | |
Boat: Jay Kantola - Trimaran 65 ft by 40 ft beam | is below the seating area towards the bow. It is easy to see what the was going for. If this vessel was used as a cruising sailboat, this compartment will need to be opened on a regular basis to attend to the nasty business of tending to the anchor chain inside. Rather, than being a tiny compartment under the seat, I recommend walling off the area all the way to the ceiling. The wall with the proper door, would also serve as a crash bulkhead. I think the problem of untwisting and mud/marine from 100-150 meters of chain could be accomplished within a large enough anchor locker. Both and freshwater wash down as well as negative venting. This would eliminate the need to do it on the . I would not have a problem entering the anchor locker from the owner's suite. In fact it could be a safer access point. I recommend a good system to what was going on outside and see the load on the chain. The room needs communication with the bridge. Recovering the anchor on a big cruising trimaran isn't a simple matter of pushing buttons at the helm. When the wind is up, and you need to anchor, even a very good won't be able to overcome the windage of the vessel without engine assist. The added weight of the full height wall and door would be offset by removing some forward glass especially the pretty but heavy glass along the step. |
18-02-2022, 12:46 | |
Boat: Farr 50 Pilothouse | looks terrible to me, but to each their own. One thing I find crazy is that you think that a feathering prop is too much of a complication, but you somehow like this boat. |
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