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By Ralph Naranjo
Updated: July 31, 2002

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The CSY 44 evolved from a desire to build a better charter boat, hard to break, easy to care for, more livable at anchor and more responsive under sail. The result didn’t look anything like the thoroughbreds dominating Antigua Race Week today. Instead, a retro look, starting with the clipper bow and molded-in trailboards, caused many to assume that this might be just another full-keel anachronism dependent on the enhanced trade winds of the Caribbean for any measure of sailing ability. Charterers and new-boat owners were pleasantly surprised.

The CSY 44 turned out to be a ruggedly built mid-cockpit cutter also available in a pilothouse version. The hefty lay-up schedule, moderate sail area and full sections made it as appealing to cruising traditionalists as it was to the charter fleet. Her bulletproof rub rail and a keel and ballast arrangement designed to handle a grounding piqued the interest of many cruisers. The fact that the vessel could be purchased in kit form or as a ready-to-cruise package further widened its appeal.

The CSY 44’s clipper bow, raised deck aft and relatively high freeboard do give her a distinctive look. The smooth curve of the cove band and boot stripe work together to offset the freeboard astern and thus lower the profile of this big, broad-transomed boat. Making a boat spacious below results in some extra windage and water-dragging girth, but in this case the end justifies the means, especially if you want to stow a lot of gear.

On one hand, the designers set out to create a big boat with lots of room below, plenty of waterline length and a good amount of volume for tankage, storage and headroom. On the other hand, tank testing helped make the hull form as efficient as possible. The underbody, characterized by a cut-away forefoot, longish keel and skeg-hung rudder, affords plenty of directional stability and performs reasonably well under sail on and off the wind.

The boat comes in either a shoal- (4’ draft) or deep-keel (6’ draft) version. Long-distance passage makers would probably be better off with the deep-draft version, because the shoal option is virtually the same, with the bottom two feet and 2,000 pounds of ballast keel lopped off, reducing significantly the vesselÕs ultimate righting moment. The shoal-draft model, however, would be a great coastal passage maker, particularly adapted to the Bahamas, Florida Keys and ICW.

The no-nonsense single-spreader cutter rig is well supported by 1×19 wire attached to formidable chain plates. The main is less than 400 square feet and is easy to reef; its long foot makes it a strong driver on and off the wind. The overlapping jib topsail can be roller furled and tips in at just under 500 square feet. It is a high-cut sail, providing good visibility to leeward yet substantial power. Typical of all traditional cutters, the unsung hero of this sailplan is the 200-square-foot inner forestaysail flown from a self-tending club-foot boom.

The Standard Perkins 4-154 has proven a reliable power plant for the prop and a big alternator and/or refrigerator compressor. Capacities of 400 gallons for water and 100 gallons for fuel were an intelligent balance for tropical tradewind cruising where the breeze is constant and water difficult to come by.

Interesting factory options included less water tankage and the addition of an Onan diesel generator, watermaker and air conditioner. Twenty-year-old boats equipped with these original components should be surveyed carefully in order to discern if there is any life left in them, if they have been upgraded, and if not, how costly it would be to do so. Gear such as solid bronze ports, a Paul Luke stove, a tinned wire harness and Edson rack-and-pinion steering are indicators of a boat that’s built to last.

Anybody looking for a rugged, well built, comfortable cruising boat, one decidedly worth renovating, should take a close look at the CSY 44. Hulls that have been ridden hard and put away wet in the charter trade are bargain priced at around $80,000 – $95,000, and they represent a good buy for the handy do-it-yourselfer. A pampered, professionally maintained version that is well equipped and pretty much ready to go, may be priced around $95,000 – $110,000.

CSY 44 Specifications: * LOA: 44’0″ (13.4 m.) * LWL: 36’4″ (11.1 m.) * Beam: 13’4″ (4.1 m.) * Draft (deep): 6’6″ (2.0 m.) * Draft (shoal): 4’11” (1.5 m.) * Ballast (deep): 12,000 lbs. (5,443 kgs.) * Ballast (shoal): 10,000 lbs. (4,536 kgs.) * Disp (deep): 33,000 lbs. (14,969 kgs.) * Disp (shoal): 31,000 lbs. (14,062 kgs.) * Sail area: (100%) 906 sq.ft. (84.2 sq.m.) * Mast above water: 55’0″ (16.8 m.) * Ballast/Disp: .32 (shoal), .36 (deep) * Disp/Length: 288 (shoal), 307 (deep) * SA/Disp: 14.7 (shoal), 14.1 (deep) * Fuel: 100 gal. (379 ltr.) * Water: 400 gal. (1,514 ltr.) * Holding: retrofit * Auxiliary: Perkins 4-154 diesel * Cabin headroom: 6’7″ (2.0 m.) * Designers: Frank Hamlin, Peter Schmitt

The CSY 44 is included in CW ‘s list of the 40 Best Sailboats of All Time. Click here to see the other boats in the list .

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The CSY 44 (Walk Through) Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators

The CSY 44 (Walk-Through), a heavy displacement cruising yacht, was designed by Peter Schmitt & Frank Hamlin and built in the USA by CSY Yacht Corp.

Published Specification for the CSY 44 (Walk Through) Sailboat

Keel & Rudder Configuration: Fin keel with skeg-hung rudder Hull Material: GRP (Fiberglass) Length Overall: 44'0" (13.4 m) Length on Deck: 44'0" (13.4 m) Waterline Length: 36'0" (11.0 m) Beam: 13'3" (4.0 m) Draft: 6'6" (2.0 m), Shoal Draft version 5'0" (1.5 m) Rig Type: Cutter Displacement: 37,000 lbs (16,783 kg) Ballast: 12,000 lbs (5,443 kg) Water Tank Capacity: 165 gallons (625 liters) Fuel Tank Capacity: 95 gallons (360 liters) Hull Speed: 8.04 knots Designer: Peter Schmitt & Frank Hamlin Builder: CSY Yacht Corp. (Caribbean Sailing Yachts) Year First Built: 1978 Year Last Built: Not specified Number Built: 40

Options & Alternatives

Later versions of the CSY 44 Walkthrough Cutter sailboat were produced, the most notable of which was the CSY 44 Walkover. The essential differences between the original CSY 44 Walkthrough Cutter and the CSY 44 Walkover are:

Deck Layout: The original CSY 44 Walkthrough featured an aft cockpit with a walkthrough design, allowing easy access from the cockpit to the interior. The CSY 44 Walkover, on the other hand, had a center cockpit with a walkover design, which provided a different spatial arrangement and potentially more privacy for the aft cabin.
Interior Layout: The interior layout of the Walkover version was adjusted to accommodate the center cockpit design, which influenced the arrangement of cabins and living spaces.
Rig and Hull: Both versions maintained the cutter rig and similar hull configurations, including the options for deep and shoal draft.

Sail Areas & Rig Dimensions

I: 54'0" (16.5 m) J: 18'0" (5.5 m) P: 47'0" (14.3 m) E: 15'0" (4.6 m)

Total Sail Area: Approximately 965 ft² (89.7 m²)

Published Design Ratios The Key Performance Indicators (KPIs)

Sail Area/Displacement Ratio: 14.0
Ballast/Displacement Ratio: 32.4%
Displacement/Length Ratio: 354
Comfort Ratio: 47.7
Capsize Screening Formula: 1.6
Sail Area/Displacement Ratio: With a ratio of 14.0, this sailboat would be considered underpowered. This suggests that the boat may not be particularly fast or agile, especially in lighter wind conditions. It would likely perform adequately but not exceptionally in terms of speed and manoeuvrability.
Ballast/Displacement Ratio: At 32.4%, this ratio indicates that the boat has a moderate amount of ballast relative to its displacement. While not extremely stiff, it should exhibit reasonable stability and be able to handle wind and waves moderately well. However, it might not be as stiff or powerful as boats with higher ratios (40% or more).
Displacement/Length Ratio: The ratio is 354, categorizing the boat as Ultraheavy Displacement. This implies that the boat is quite heavy for its length, giving it a strong presence in the water. Such boats typically have a smoother ride and can carry more supplies, making them favourable for long voyages. However, they generally require more sail area to achieve higher speeds and are not as responsive as lighter displacement boats.
Comfort Ratio: With a Comfort Ratio of 47.7, this sailboat falls into the category associated with a heavy bluewater boat. This means that it is designed with comfort in mind, minimizing the pitch, roll, and corkscrew motions that can cause discomfort. This level of comfort is particularly advantageous for long-distance cruising and ocean voyages.
Capsize Screening Formula: The value of 1.6 is well below the threshold of 2.0, indicating strong bluewater capability. This suggests that the boat is well-suited for ocean passages, with a design that minimizes the risk of capsizing in rough conditions.

Overall Summary: The CSY 44 Walkthrough Cutter appears to be a robust, heavy displacement sailboat designed for comfort and stability in bluewater cruising. It is likely not a particularly fast or sporty vessel, but its construction makes it capable of handling long ocean passages with a high degree of safety and comfort. This boat would be ideal for sailors prioritizing comfort and safety over speed, especially in open-ocean conditions.

Here's how to calculate the KPIs yourself - without having to wrestle with the mathematics...

Design Ratios: Notes of Caution...

The Sail Area/Displacement Ratio (SA/D): This ratio provides an estimate of the sail power relative to the boat's weight, which can indicate potential speed in various wind conditions. But i t doesn't account for the efficiency of the sail plan, the rigging, or the skill of the crew. Real-world performance can vary significantly based on these factors.
The Ballast/Displacement Ratio (B/D): This ratio gives an idea of the boat's stability and stiffness, which is crucial for handling and safety. But it doesn't consider the distribution of the ballast or the hull shape, both of which can greatly affect stability. A high B/D ratio alone doesn't guarantee a stable boat if the ballast is poorly distributed.
The Displacement/Length Ratio (D/L): This ratio helps predict the boat's speed potential and its behaviour in different sea conditions. But it doesn't account for the hull design or the boat's overall weight distribution. Two boats with the same D/L ratio can perform very differently if their hull shapes are different.
The Comfort Ratio (CR): This ratio estimates the boat's motion comfort in a seaway, which is important for long passages. But it doesn't consider the boat's interior layout, which can also affect comfort. Additionally, personal tolerance to motion varies, so a boat that is comfortable for one person might not be for another.
The Capsize Screening Formula (CSF): This formula assesses the likelihood of a boat capsizing in heavy seas, which is critical for offshore safety. But it doesn't take into account the boat's handling characteristics or the skill of the crew. A boat with a low CSF can still capsize if poorly handled in severe conditions.

General Limitations

Static Nature: These ratios are static measurements and don't account for dynamic factors like wave action, wind gusts, or crew actions.
Simplification: They simplify complex interactions into single numbers, which can be misleading. Real-world performance is influenced by a multitude of factors that these ratios can't fully capture.
Context: The context in which the boat is used (e.g., coastal cruising vs. offshore racing) can greatly affect how these ratios should be interpreted.

In summary, while these ratios provide valuable insights into the theoretical performance characteristics of a sailboat, they should be used as part of a broader assessment that includes practical experience, sea trials, and expert advice.

The above text was drafted by sailboat-cruising.com using GPT-4 (OpenAI’s large-scale language-generation model) as a research assistant to develop source material; we believe it to be accurate to the best of our knowledge.

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CSY 44 (Pilot House)

CSY 44 (Pilot House) is a 43 ′ 11 ″ / 13.4 m monohull sailboat designed by Peter Schmitt and built by CSY (Caribbean Sailing Yachts) starting in 1977.

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Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
LOA: Length overall in feet
Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

There were three version of the CSY 44: PILOT HOUSE, MID COCKPIT, and WALK THROUGH. The PILOT HOUSE version, shown here, has an aft cockpit and a second steering station. Most of these were delivered with a ketch rig. The CSY 44 was also sold under a number of other names including the CYGNET 44 and later, the ANTIQUA 44.

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Interior tour of our 44′ CSY Walk Over sailboat (Photo + Video)

Now that we’ve settled in properly and I finally finished sewing the interior seat cushions , I thought I would snap a few photos (since I just cleaned) of the interior of our sailboat. I also took video as well, so see the end of this post for the video tour.

Our sailboat is a 44′ CSY “walk over”. CSY made the 44′ sailboat with two layouts: a walk thru and a walk over . Since the boat has a center cockpit, this means that in the walk over the cabins below are separated by the cockpit. The walk thru has the aft cabin and main cabin connected by a skinny hallway. Its galley is also situated on the starboard side. The walk over (like ours) does not have this connecting hallway. The cabins are completely separate and the only way to get from one to the other is to “walk over” the cockpit.

The Main Cabin

The main cabin is our main living area. It’s where the galley and primary eating spot is located. Walking forward, there is a full-size shower, separate head and the v-berth.

The Aft Cabin

The aft cabin is our master stateroom. It has a bed, head and navigation table with a large locker under it.

That’s it! That’s the view below the decks on s/v Blue Turtle. Video tour is below.

2 thoughts on “Interior tour of our 44′ CSY Walk Over sailboat (Photo + Video)”

Hi Guys, love what you’ve done!! I have a 78 walkover and am in the process of overhauling the interior to suit my purposes. Could I ask what timber you used for the changes to the original? Teak is a) hard to source and b) prohibitively expensive, especially in Australia. Thanks Ken

Unfortunately, we didn’t do any of the interior renovation. We bough the boat like it is. I’m not sure what type wood was used. If I can find out from the previous owner, I’ll post here.

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1977 CSY 44 Center Cockpit Walkover

Center Cockpit
Merritt Island, FL, US

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RECENT PRICE REDUCTION CHUBASCO is a beautifully updated CSY 44 Walk Over with a newer fully enclosed center cockpit that makes for a spacious and comfortable living area. She's well suited for live-a-board or extended blue water cruising. The interior has been updated from the eye catching tile in the galley to the newer interior upholstery of the salon. Two (2) Flat Panel TV's, Newer electronics. Linear Drive Auto Pilot. Complete AC electrical wiring redone with new Blue Sea Panels (12VDC and 110VAC) and Galvanic Isolator. She also has a 16k BTU Marine Air AC unit for comfort on those hot 'n humid days. Her solid fiberglass hull and decks with no coring eliminates the concern of soft spots and delamination. A long keel with a cutaway fore foot and skeg hung rudder along with her shallow draft of 4 feet 10 inches makes her ideal for Florida, the Bahamas and long distance cruising.

A recent partial refit includes but is not limited to new running rigging, new windex, new electronics, all new AC wiring with new breaker panels, new AGM batteries, new propane tank, gauges and hoses in 2016, new Princess propane stove in 2010, new LED lighting throughout, new TV, ice maker. Feathering Max Prop in 2016 w/spare 3 blade bronze. Sails restitched and cleaned. Custom saloon storage cabinetry, new paint inside and out. Last bottom job in April 2017, Cutlass bearing in 2015. Lots of upgrades! Check the 100 photo gallery.

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LOA: 44 feet LWL: 36.33 feet Beam: 13.3 feet Displacement: 37000 pounds Ballast: 12000 pounds

Water: 400 Gallons total (2x200) Fuel: 100 Gallons Holding Waste: 25 gallon USCG marine sanitation device type III USCG type I, Lectra San

Brand: Perkins Model: 4.236 HP: 85 Hours: 2550

The master stateroom is aft with its own private entry from the fully enclosed cockpit. The master berth has a 27 inch flat screen TV with built in DVD Player. The ensuite head, vanity and shower are well suited. The nav station with chart table are also here in the master cabin, convenient to the helm and includes VHF and SSB Radios and Weems & Plath ship's clock and barometer.

The salon has a very spacious feel and is light, bright and airy. Settees to port and starboard surround a huge double dropleaf table providing seating for six for dinner or drinks. 42 inch flat screen TV. Excellent storage throughout.

The modernized galle y is at the base of the companionway and is easily accessed from the cockpit. The galley offers lots of conveniences including Emerson microwave, double stainless sinks w/updated faucet, beautiful blue ceramic tile, teak spice rack, GFI protected outlets, 3 burner gimbled Princess propane stove w/oven, 2 opening ports, 12VDC fan and lots of drawers and cabinets for storage. Double cold plate system with 110VAC engine driven compressor and 12VDC Frigiboat compressor.

The forward guest stateroom features a very roomy v-berth with large overhead hatch and opening ports for ample light and ventilation. There is abundant storage under the berth. The guest head is spacious and has a separate shower stall that all cruisers prefer.

The spacious cockpit has a newer full enclosure with sunbrella bimini 'n dodger including covers for the eisenglass panels. Newer cushions and a teak table that's convenient for displaying a nice spread of food 'n drinks. Edson pedestal with engine controls and mounts for GPS Chartplotter and Radar units. New electronic panels on bulkhead including Tach, Hour Meter, Engine Temp, Alternator Voltage and Oil Pressure gauges as well as Depth Finder, Wind Indicator and Auto Pilot. One of the nicest cockpits you'll ever experience.

Aft Deck lifelines run gate to gate around the stern with 1" stainless steel tubing for a very secure feeling when underway. Heavy Duty aluminum Vetus Dinghy davits with manual block 'n tackle for lifting. Outboard motor mount on transom rail.

Two Raritan manual flush heads in new condition. Raw water supply is a marelon, operable seacock located in the vicinity of each head. Waste is directed to a poly waste tank located port engine compartment aft, or to a Lectra San treatment system below the aft berth, and on to a deck pump out plate located port outboard of cockpit clearly marked for WASTE. The vessel was also equipped with below the water line discharge seacocks, marelon and operable located below each head compartment basin with in line Y valves.

VHF: Standard Horizon Matrix AIS GX2150 at Nav Station with RAM Command Mic at helm RADAR: Furuno 1621 Mark II Closed Array Radar GPS: Raymarine 9 inch touchscreen GPS on pedestal AUTOHELM: Raymarine Linear AutoPilot in 2013 TRI-DATA: Raymarine digital depth/speed/wind, COMPASS: 5" Ritchie Powerdamp Compass mounted on pedestal SINGLE SIDE BAND RADIO: Yaesu System 600 HF Transceiver

SHORE POWER INLET: Two Marinco 30 amp, 125 volt inlets located starboard amidships. Two (2) Shore power cords. MAIN BREAKERS: Main 110 VAC panels along with individually labeled branch breakers. Located starboard in the main salon area, two panels.

PANEL: The main DC panel located starboard aft in the main cabin area. Overcurrent protection is provided by individually labeled switches with fuses

CIRCUIT LOAD MONITORS: Vessel is equipped with circuit load monitors, analog voltmeters for the AC power system 12VDC Battery Banks: Six (6) 6V AGM Batteries (2015), One Size 31 Start (2015)

MAIN BATTERY SWITCHES: Two rotary type located starboard aft salon

MONITOR: Viltron Energy Battery Monitor Sytem CHARGER: ProMariner ProNautic 1220P 12V 20A Charger CHARGING SYSTEM (ALTERNATOR): Belt driven alternator on engine

WINDGEN w/ SES Flexcharge charge controller

DC/AC INVERTER: [B1] 1800 watt inverter in starboard aft salon with in line battery switch

GALVANIC ISOLATOR: Professional Mariner 60 amp galvanic isolator

OUTLETS: Various A.C. outlets available throughout yacht. GFCI (ground fault circuit interrupter) protected outlets at galley and immediately adjacent to the AC power panel and inside hanging locker.

POLARITY: A reversed polarity indicator at the main electrical panels.

Full battened Main Sail in Mack Pack 130% Genoa w/sacrificial sunbrella covering on Profurl Roller Furling system Clubfooted Staysail w/sacrificial sunbrella covering REEFING SYSTEM: Jiffy reefing system w/two reef points for the main. Pro Furl roller furling for the headsail. WINCHES: Two (2) Barient 27ST, two (2) Barient 20ST, two (2) Barient 21, three (3) Barient 10. All winches recently inspected and serviceable.

SAIL TRACK: Two toe rail mounted sail tracks with cars both port and starboard. Appeared serviceable.

STANDING RIGGING: Renewed in 1996 and 1998

Stainless steel platform with dual roller/forestay assembly. Muir 12 volt windlass, horizontal with gypsy and wildcat. Installed ground tackle consists of a Delta Plow, a Fortress FX-37 for a spare, with approximately 50' of 3/8" BBB coil galvanized chain shackled to 200' of 3/4" marine grade nylon rode that's attached to vessel inside of the chain locker.

West Marine inflatable model C-RIB 310 with bridle Mariner 15 hp two stoke outboard

CHUBASCO was recently surveyed for evaluation and rated ABOVE AVERAGE CONDITION. This is not an old and aging vessel. She's been well maintained with plenty of upgrades.

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