I'm trying to restrict my to less than $50K. I could afford more but, the more I spend on the , the longer it will take me to be able to leave on it.
If I don't end up with this Baba, there are some other models I'm considering. The 8-ton cruiser is also a 30ft double ender that seems to be aimed at the same sort of purpose as the Baba and they seem to typically be cheaper. Do any of you have experience with these ? Specifically, I'm wondering about sailing characteristics. I certainly don't expect any of these to be real fast but I don't want to end up with something that horribly. I've read favorable reports of sailing the Baba but haven't seen anything about the .
I've also looked at a couple of Mariners. In particular, I saw a Mariner 31 that I really liked. My impression is that the Mariner isn't as well suited to open ocean and heavy as the other two boats. Has anyone had any experience with heavy on the small Mariners or used them for long distance cruising?
If anyone has information that would help me, I'd appreciate you passing it along. If you have other suggestion for boats that might suit my purposes, I'd like to hear those as well. One thing that I have to consider is . I'm 6'3" and while I don't mind occasionally hitting my on something, I don't want to be hunched over all the time.
Thanks in advance.
15-11-2007, 20:43 | |
Boat: Westsail 32 | in for Westsail 32's. We looked at a slew of boats in the 50K range (including Baba 30s and Williards) and decided you can't get more for the than with a W32. They're solid, sail well (don't laugh - I click along at 4 knots in 5 knots of , sipping a coolly while the steers 50% of the time), and a boat packed and ready to go can be had for the 50k you're interested in spending. Baba 30's are beautiful, sail well (sailed three), and are comfy (except the awkward wheel/binnacles.). That said, my boat is beautiful, well, is comfortable all over, and I enjoy that it has a tiller and stern hung along with a bunch of other things. Best of luck on your search! Fair leads, Aaron N. |
15-11-2007, 21:39 | |
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2 | time. Easy to sail and will carry all the junk you tend to accumulate. Our steered 98% of the time. The boat was very comfortable for the two of us and really has the volume of a boat nearing 40'. Aloha Peter O. |
16-11-2007, 10:59 | |
Boat: Mariner 31 #9 - 'Architeuthis' | cruisers), wet, initially , and tend to not balance out very well - especially going upwind. Please don't be offended. I haven't actually sailed one so I only have what I've heard from others to go on. Overall, I have the impression that they'll get you where you're going but aren't very pleasant to sail. I did go and look at one that was . It was definitely well built. It was a factory finished boat and the was beautiful and there was an impressive amount of . I was already a bit on the fence due to some of the unfavorable things I'd heard about their sailing characteristics but what really killed it for me was the lack of . I'm 6'3" and there wasn't any part of the that I could stand fully upright in. The Baba 30 has a touch more headroom and while there are a few places I can bonk my head, for the most part I can stand up and walk upright. I understand that the Willard was also designed by William and I've seen a few sources that claim he wanted to address things he saw as shortcomings in the design of the W32. I'd love to hear from someone that had sailed both the W32 and the Willard and could compare the two. I'm hoping to go and take a look at one on Sunday so at least I'll know if the headroom situation is any different from the Westsail. |
16-11-2007, 11:56 | |
on the Willard, and looked at a couple. Not much is available on the , but I did track down some and past owners. Get me your and I can forward all of the info/reviews/opinions I received. Other boats I have looked at are the CT34, 34, Downeast 32, Mariner 31,32,36. I have thought about the Westsail 32, but was leary from all the negatives I've heard as well...no actual experience. I find that both sides are very aggresive in their arguments, so it is hard to make a judgement without actually having first hand experience. If you have any boats you liked/disliked in this category I would love to hear your opinions. If you have any suggestions they would also be helpful. | |
16-11-2007, 14:00 | |
Boat: 1976 Sabre 28-2 | coming over the bow. It essentially steered itself which it would do on the in every condition we encountered. Oh, it averaged 125nm per day for the 4 days under those lovely conditions.. As far as fast, we averaged 118nm per day through the . No boost from currents or whatever, it was measured by a Walker Log backed up by a knotmeter/Log. Included two crossings of the doldrums which gave us new apprecitation for Coleridges 'Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner'. Used the only for and getting in and out of port when we couldn't sail out. Best days run was 177 nm, did 185nm on another W32. Did 900 miles in 6 days. Also had a 15 mile day ITC and 4-5 days of 50+ average crossing the ITC on the way back to . Did all this with the boat either self-steering or the at the . If the boat sailed, I wasn't doing it. The w32 is not a good light air boat. Boat will sail but will not win any races. in under 5mph winds, any fin boat will literally sail rings around a W32 and any other boat, for that matter, because of the wetted surface. The biggest negative was the poor performance beating into a chop in light air. The boat would hobby horse and literally go sideways. In the onr or two instances that we encountered these conditions, we sailed with the engine ticking over just above idle and pointed higher and footed faster than any IOR boat. The w32 is not a boat you try and pinch up in. We found the secret for speed was to keep the boat moving. Falling off a few degrees made the track over the ground way higher and the VMG way better. As far as being initially, yep But all full boats that aren't total pigs in light air will be tender inititally. To cut down on wetted surface, full keel boats are designed with slack bilges. Instead of the flat bottoms of the fin keel boats, full keel boats have a gentle slide from the watrer line to the keel. It makes them initially a bit tender but also makes the motion slower and less violent. It also means they harden up as the angle of heel increases and have much greater ultimate stability. You know, the kind of stability that saves your ass when the **** hits the fan. They will sail to weather without a hand on the . As the speed increases there is significant induced weather helm sailing off the wind. They will not balance, but then I've never been on a boat that would except low aspect rigs that gave new meaning to slow. Since the Aries did all the , the weather helm was never an issue and certainly didn't hurt performance. The W32 is an FRP variant of the Atkins 'Eric/Thistle' design. Don't know how much did in making the conversion. One thing I heard was moving the prop into an aperture in the instead of mostly in the and the design when Westsail took over the hull molds. The W32 was originally built by a guy named Kendall in the flush Thistle variant of Atkins design. As far as headroom, there were differences in the deck molds. Early boats, like our #163, had an error in the that produced a lot of sheer in the top and cut head room down by at least 2". We are not headroom challenged so it didn't bother us and actually considered it an improvement as it looked better. Later boats had a deck without much sheer in the cabin top and a lot more headroom. Also, the deck beams that were options on the W32 were strictly cosmetic. They can be removed with impunity to increase head room by 1 1/2", if they are present. You might want to check out a couple of different W32's, especially one's after around #225 to see if they might have the headroom you want. As far as being fun to sail, the W32 is a bus. It is not quick on the helm or light on it's feet. That's anathema to the around the buoys, inshore types. For long passages, it's a godsend, however. It's the difference between going cross country on a 998 Ducati or a home. The Ducati may get you there sooner, if you don't get arrested by the CHP, your butt and back hold out and you take nothing with you but a change of underwear. The motor home will get you there at or above the speed limit with all the things you need to live with for long periods though the drive may be a bit boring. I'm not familiar with the Baba 30. It looks like a good capable of doig what you intend, though a little cramped. Correct me I'm wrong, but wasn't the Willard 30 hull also offered as a . It would lead me to believe that's it a motor sailer. Doesn't seem like it would be an improvement on the sailing abilities of a W32 and probably a goodly step behind. By the way, I don't have a dog in this hunt. We've long since our W32 which has gone on to for another 50,000 miles. After a long hiatus from sailing, thought about our old W32 back. Since I'm strictly going to be coastal cruising decided it was too much boat. Bought a 35. It's probably a better boat for coastal cruising but it's not a boat I'd want take where we went in our W32. Don't listen to the detractors of the W32, most haven't gone anywhere and certainly not in a W32. Yes there are better boats but none for the of a W32 that are built as strong, sail as well, and carry as much as the W32. Aloha Peter O. |
16-11-2007, 15:18 | |
from the same exact . From what I understand the hires them to build boats. When they are between contracts, they design and build boats for the general public as a way to keep their staff employed and keep them from going elsewhere before the next comes up. | |
16-11-2007, 16:19 | |
Boat: Mariner 31 #9 - 'Architeuthis' | |
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